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	<title>Comments on: Quicken Essentials 2010 for Mac.  Why bother?</title>
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		<title>By: Margie</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My e-mail to Quicken

I just converted from Quicken 2006 for Mac to Quicken Essentials for Mac.

I am having a lot of trouble using the “reports” feature in my new Quicken Essentials.



The reports which I could make on the old program I cannot make on Essentials. The “reports” feature was very helpful. For example, I could search for a word within in a category such as &quot;TAXES.&quot; and I could see all taxes I paid; State taxes, Federal taxes, property taxes etc. I could even search the memos for a specific word. This is not possible with Essentials. 



I do some property management. When I make deposits, of course I put all the checks on one deposit slip, and I catalog each check in the Quicken 2006 program as to which property it was from.This was perfect. I could make reports by name of payee, by any category or sub category or by memo. Now, when I request the income on a property, I see only my deposits as splits. There is no way to get totals by property or by memo. I have to open each split deposit and get a pencil and paper to add them up. This is NOT progress.

 

Every year at tax time, my tenants need me to verify how much rent they have paid. Do I have to add up every deposit for each tenant for the whole year? The 2006 version allowed me to find exactly who had paid what, in seconds.The Essentials program doesn&#039;t work for me at all without these features. I won&#039;t be able to do my taxes. I can’t even make a proper year end summary.



I understand that these features are in the Windows version. What is that all about? Do you think Mac users don’t do their taxes?  don’t have small businesses? lose track of a bill and need to find it by name or memo? I have a Mac and don&#039;t know how to use a PC. 



I will have to continue to use the 2006 version of Quicken. Please continue to maintain this program and let me know when this problem has been fixed.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My e-mail to Quicken</p>
<p>I just converted from Quicken 2006 for Mac to Quicken Essentials for Mac.</p>
<p>I am having a lot of trouble using the “reports” feature in my new Quicken Essentials.</p>
<p>The reports which I could make on the old program I cannot make on Essentials. The “reports” feature was very helpful. For example, I could search for a word within in a category such as &#8220;TAXES.&#8221; and I could see all taxes I paid; State taxes, Federal taxes, property taxes etc. I could even search the memos for a specific word. This is not possible with Essentials. </p>
<p>I do some property management. When I make deposits, of course I put all the checks on one deposit slip, and I catalog each check in the Quicken 2006 program as to which property it was from.This was perfect. I could make reports by name of payee, by any category or sub category or by memo. Now, when I request the income on a property, I see only my deposits as splits. There is no way to get totals by property or by memo. I have to open each split deposit and get a pencil and paper to add them up. This is NOT progress.</p>
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<p>Every year at tax time, my tenants need me to verify how much rent they have paid. Do I have to add up every deposit for each tenant for the whole year? The 2006 version allowed me to find exactly who had paid what, in seconds.The Essentials program doesn&#8217;t work for me at all without these features. I won&#8217;t be able to do my taxes. I can’t even make a proper year end summary.</p>
<p>I understand that these features are in the Windows version. What is that all about? Do you think Mac users don’t do their taxes?  don’t have small businesses? lose track of a bill and need to find it by name or memo? I have a Mac and don&#8217;t know how to use a PC. </p>
<p>I will have to continue to use the 2006 version of Quicken. Please continue to maintain this program and let me know when this problem has been fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Additionally,&lt;br/&gt;Moving from PC to Mac was to make my computer use easier and more stable (less viruses, crashes, etc).  There is a vast difference between making a program &quot;easy to use&quot; and &quot;dumbing it down&quot;.  Please don&#039;t assume this means Mac users don&#039;t need and want useful features.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additionally,<br />Moving from PC to Mac was to make my computer use easier and more stable (less viruses, crashes, etc).  There is a vast difference between making a program &quot;easy to use&quot; and &quot;dumbing it down&quot;.  Please don&#8217;t assume this means Mac users don&#8217;t need and want useful features.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to Eddy about specifics...&lt;br/&gt;Features such as using Quicken Bill Pay through Quicken and pushing data into Turbo tax and investment tracking don&#039;t really seem like complex features. They are necessary features for normal people and ones I would expect to have in a $60 program from Intuit. I&#039;ve been able to utilize these features for years in the windows versions, making my life &quot;drop-dead&quot; easy. &lt;br/&gt;While your transparency is appreciated, I can see no reason to purchase a product without these features...period. Should the Quicken team decide to include these features in this Mac release, I would imagine many Mac users would give the 60 day trial a whirl.  Is that not your ultimate goal?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Eddy about specifics&#8230;<br />Features such as using Quicken Bill Pay through Quicken and pushing data into Turbo tax and investment tracking don&#8217;t really seem like complex features. They are necessary features for normal people and ones I would expect to have in a $60 program from Intuit. I&#8217;ve been able to utilize these features for years in the windows versions, making my life &quot;drop-dead&quot; easy. <br />While your transparency is appreciated, I can see no reason to purchase a product without these features&#8230;period. Should the Quicken team decide to include these features in this Mac release, I would imagine many Mac users would give the 60 day trial a whirl.  Is that not your ultimate goal?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Like many posting here I am a long time Quicken for Windows user (since 1995 with a current data file of 10,000+ transactions) who has had stellar experience with the program.  And yes, I have always done the annual program updates…perhaps I’ve been loyal to a fault (?).  I have recently purchased a MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and—as expected—love the platform.  However I continue using QFW 2010 on my Vista 64 bit desktop PC (a rock solid OS for me BTW) and have been holding off converting my desktop to the more elegant Mac platform waiting for some equivalency in features with the Mac Quicken version&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I had been holding out hopes for the QE for Mac 2010 version thinking my biggest challenges would be in the conversion of my large data file. But having now read the latest entries from users and Intuit reps alike both here and on Intuit’s site, I find the “new” Mac product taking a giant step backward for serious home finance users like myself.  Quicken is my #1 “killer app,” and within the program my “killer features” are investment tracking (mutual funds, 401k’s, IRAs) including detailed pricing history, integrated on-line bill pay, check printing, and loan amortization schedules (how do you really know your financial situation if you aren’t tracking your current balances on your mortgage or car loans?).  From what I read QE 2010 will have NONE of those features, and it appears the program is in a quick race to the bottom of the software features list to be little more than a slick looking checkbook register (as termed by others).  Sorry, but I may have come too far over the past 15 years tracking our family’s financial details.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From “Eddy’s” (at Intuit) comments here it is clear Intuit has made what they see as a business decision to go “drop-dead easy to use” and leave behind a good chunk of Mac users by:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“…trying to strike a balance between providing new features that are useful and make it easier to manage your financial life, vs bloating the product to the point where it is unusable - after all, there is a reason people have been switching to Mac, right?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Boy, that speaks volumes…since when did complete and thorough get equated to “bloated” and “unusable”?  I guess Intuit feels the Mac crowd is just too simple to have detailed financial needs—like personal investments with trading details!  Thankfully Adobe (Photoshop, Premier) and apparently now even Microsoft (Office for Mac 2010 this fall)—my other killer apps—aren’t thinking the same way in their approaches to the Mac platform.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Many thanks to Rob for keeping this blog going.  If I could put in a request to this group, I would personally look forward to a more involved discussion over Quicken alternatives, particularly the pending iBank review Rob refers to.  I will not wait for Intuit any longer and see no value in badgering them about what they already see as their future in the Mac community.  I will sever ties with them when I change my desktop in the next 6 months or so.  I only want to go through the conversion one time, so I will appreciate whatever alternatives can be discussed here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And before someone reminds me about the ability to use Parallels (or the equivalent) and run Windows on the Intel Mac—I know all about that.  But there’s something about buying a new Mac, then buying additional software to run Windows, then buying Windows 7, then buying Windows security software, all to keep buying Intuit’s Windows version of Quicken, that just seems all backwards.  Plus it reinforces Intuit’s continuing design and marketing behavior!  Time for a change if I can find one.  Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many posting here I am a long time Quicken for Windows user (since 1995 with a current data file of 10,000+ transactions) who has had stellar experience with the program.  And yes, I have always done the annual program updates…perhaps I’ve been loyal to a fault (?).  I have recently purchased a MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and—as expected—love the platform.  However I continue using QFW 2010 on my Vista 64 bit desktop PC (a rock solid OS for me BTW) and have been holding off converting my desktop to the more elegant Mac platform waiting for some equivalency in features with the Mac Quicken version</p>
<p>I had been holding out hopes for the QE for Mac 2010 version thinking my biggest challenges would be in the conversion of my large data file. But having now read the latest entries from users and Intuit reps alike both here and on Intuit’s site, I find the “new” Mac product taking a giant step backward for serious home finance users like myself.  Quicken is my #1 “killer app,” and within the program my “killer features” are investment tracking (mutual funds, 401k’s, IRAs) including detailed pricing history, integrated on-line bill pay, check printing, and loan amortization schedules (how do you really know your financial situation if you aren’t tracking your current balances on your mortgage or car loans?).  From what I read QE 2010 will have NONE of those features, and it appears the program is in a quick race to the bottom of the software features list to be little more than a slick looking checkbook register (as termed by others).  Sorry, but I may have come too far over the past 15 years tracking our family’s financial details.</p>
<p>From “Eddy’s” (at Intuit) comments here it is clear Intuit has made what they see as a business decision to go “drop-dead easy to use” and leave behind a good chunk of Mac users by:</p>
<p>“…trying to strike a balance between providing new features that are useful and make it easier to manage your financial life, vs bloating the product to the point where it is unusable &#8211; after all, there is a reason people have been switching to Mac, right?”</p>
<p>Boy, that speaks volumes…since when did complete and thorough get equated to “bloated” and “unusable”?  I guess Intuit feels the Mac crowd is just too simple to have detailed financial needs—like personal investments with trading details!  Thankfully Adobe (Photoshop, Premier) and apparently now even Microsoft (Office for Mac 2010 this fall)—my other killer apps—aren’t thinking the same way in their approaches to the Mac platform.</p>
<p>Many thanks to Rob for keeping this blog going.  If I could put in a request to this group, I would personally look forward to a more involved discussion over Quicken alternatives, particularly the pending iBank review Rob refers to.  I will not wait for Intuit any longer and see no value in badgering them about what they already see as their future in the Mac community.  I will sever ties with them when I change my desktop in the next 6 months or so.  I only want to go through the conversion one time, so I will appreciate whatever alternatives can be discussed here.</p>
<p>And before someone reminds me about the ability to use Parallels (or the equivalent) and run Windows on the Intel Mac—I know all about that.  But there’s something about buying a new Mac, then buying additional software to run Windows, then buying Windows 7, then buying Windows security software, all to keep buying Intuit’s Windows version of Quicken, that just seems all backwards.  Plus it reinforces Intuit’s continuing design and marketing behavior!  Time for a change if I can find one.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been looking at alternatives to Quicken Essentials.  We all know Apple will pull the plug on Rosetta sooner or later.  I think buying VMware so I can buy Windows so I can buy Quicken for Windows is really overkill, so I looked at Crossover Mac, which allows Windows programs to be run natively on the Mac.  Problems there.  It says it supports Quicken for Windows 2009, so it will probably support Quicken for Windows 2010.  But with OS X 10.6, it will only run in 32-bit mode.  There is a Unix hack you have to apply to set the default library to the 32-bit library.  that means all your apps that require 64-bit mode won&#039;t run.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, It was reported above that Moneydance won&#039;t import files from Quicken.  Apparently, the newest release will import QIF files, but you have to do it one account at a time.  I&#039;m evaluating it now.  More later.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, if you don&#039;t trust putting your financial data into Mint.com, American Express is debuting a similar service.  I think I&#039;d trust Amex before I&#039;d trust Intuit to keep my data secure.  if you have an American Express card, check it out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good news that there may be light at the end of the tunnel, Rob.  Let&#039;s hope it comes before Apple comes out with OS X 10.7 or whatever and yanks Rosetta.  Until then, I&#039;m sticking with Quicken for Mac 2007 despite all the file corruptions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at alternatives to Quicken Essentials.  We all know Apple will pull the plug on Rosetta sooner or later.  I think buying VMware so I can buy Windows so I can buy Quicken for Windows is really overkill, so I looked at Crossover Mac, which allows Windows programs to be run natively on the Mac.  Problems there.  It says it supports Quicken for Windows 2009, so it will probably support Quicken for Windows 2010.  But with OS X 10.6, it will only run in 32-bit mode.  There is a Unix hack you have to apply to set the default library to the 32-bit library.  that means all your apps that require 64-bit mode won&#8217;t run.</p>
<p>Also, It was reported above that Moneydance won&#8217;t import files from Quicken.  Apparently, the newest release will import QIF files, but you have to do it one account at a time.  I&#8217;m evaluating it now.  More later.</p>
<p>Also, if you don&#8217;t trust putting your financial data into Mint.com, American Express is debuting a similar service.  I think I&#8217;d trust Amex before I&#8217;d trust Intuit to keep my data secure.  if you have an American Express card, check it out.</p>
<p>Good news that there may be light at the end of the tunnel, Rob.  Let&#8217;s hope it comes before Apple comes out with OS X 10.7 or whatever and yanks Rosetta.  Until then, I&#8217;m sticking with Quicken for Mac 2007 despite all the file corruptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://robpickering.com/2010/01/quicken-essentials-2010-for-mac-why-bother-8/comment-page-1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My data in Quicken goes back to 1987.  I Love Quicken and use it daily.  But my copy of Quicken 2007 R3 for Mac is so unstable that I have to go back to a backup about once a month.  I&#039;m running on OSX 10.6.2 on a quad-core Xeon Mac pro.  I have dozens of investments I track, with monthly changes due to dividends, purchases and sales, and I have to import all of that to Turbotax, so Quicken Essentials 2010 is a no-fly for me.  It won&#039;t do what I need, so I won&#039;t buy it.  We all know that sooner or later Apple will abandon Rosetta, so I have to start planning for what I&#039;m going to do then.  If there was a replacement for Quicken that I could import my Quicken data into, I&#039;d buy it today.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Don&#039;t talk to me about Mint, either.  If I can&#039;t trust Intuit to make a product that works, can I trust them to safeguard my financial data online?  Get Real, Intuit!  If I can&#039;t depend on Quicken, I&#039;ll be using something else, and switching from Turbotax and Quickbooks, as well.  Would I buy Quicken for Windows, then buy windows to run it on and VMWare to run windows?  Why should I?  Intuit used to have a great product.  they still do for windows.  It&#039;s just us third-class citizen Mac users who are out of luck!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My data in Quicken goes back to 1987.  I Love Quicken and use it daily.  But my copy of Quicken 2007 R3 for Mac is so unstable that I have to go back to a backup about once a month.  I&#8217;m running on OSX 10.6.2 on a quad-core Xeon Mac pro.  I have dozens of investments I track, with monthly changes due to dividends, purchases and sales, and I have to import all of that to Turbotax, so Quicken Essentials 2010 is a no-fly for me.  It won&#8217;t do what I need, so I won&#8217;t buy it.  We all know that sooner or later Apple will abandon Rosetta, so I have to start planning for what I&#8217;m going to do then.  If there was a replacement for Quicken that I could import my Quicken data into, I&#8217;d buy it today.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Don&#8217;t talk to me about Mint, either.  If I can&#8217;t trust Intuit to make a product that works, can I trust them to safeguard my financial data online?  Get Real, Intuit!  If I can&#8217;t depend on Quicken, I&#8217;ll be using something else, and switching from Turbotax and Quickbooks, as well.  Would I buy Quicken for Windows, then buy windows to run it on and VMWare to run windows?  Why should I?  Intuit used to have a great product.  they still do for windows.  It&#8217;s just us third-class citizen Mac users who are out of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: stwebb</title>
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		<dc:creator>stwebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wish Steve Jobs (Apple) would buy Intuit, or at least their Quicken for Mac division!  Intuit can then place their emphasis directly on Quicken for Windows and TurboTax, while Apple rebrands Quicken for Mac to something catchy like Money for Mac (hey MS doesn&#039;t have the Money software anymore)!!!  I&#039;m sure Apple and Intuit can work together to allow Money for Mac to work seamlessly with TurboTax!  Intuit will never get this right, so the programmers at Apple have a golden opportunity to create something that is desperately needed by us Mac users!  iWorks would be a good program to add Money for Mac to...heck...I&#039;d pay $69.99 for a standalone Money for Mac or $99.99 for the whole iWorks program!  Apple - I&#039;m begging you please contact Intuit about buying out Intuit&#039;s Mac division!  Intuit - Please contact Apple to see if they are interested in acquiring your troubled Mac division!  It&#039;s a win-win situation!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish Steve Jobs (Apple) would buy Intuit, or at least their Quicken for Mac division!  Intuit can then place their emphasis directly on Quicken for Windows and TurboTax, while Apple rebrands Quicken for Mac to something catchy like Money for Mac (hey MS doesn&#8217;t have the Money software anymore)!!!  I&#8217;m sure Apple and Intuit can work together to allow Money for Mac to work seamlessly with TurboTax!  Intuit will never get this right, so the programmers at Apple have a golden opportunity to create something that is desperately needed by us Mac users!  iWorks would be a good program to add Money for Mac to&#8230;heck&#8230;I&#8217;d pay $69.99 for a standalone Money for Mac or $99.99 for the whole iWorks program!  Apple &#8211; I&#8217;m begging you please contact Intuit about buying out Intuit&#8217;s Mac division!  Intuit &#8211; Please contact Apple to see if they are interested in acquiring your troubled Mac division!  It&#8217;s a win-win situation!</p>
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		<title>By: Moeskido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moeskido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rob, thanks for your assessment of Intuit&#039;s neglect. I&#039;ve been using Quicken for Mac since 1998, currently on version 2007. The Essentials description looks very much as though Intuit is targeting a lower level of user who has fewer needs for money management and fewer intellectual faculties for understanding them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe you left out one truly annoying factor about Quicken I&#039;ve discovered through several upgrades. Two or three releases after a particular version, Intuit effectively disables bank and credit transaction downloads in that version. I had to buy Q2007 after Q2004 informed me of this, for example. Further, I found no added convenience from &quot;Web Connect&#039;s&quot; clumsy modal window that I hadn&#039;t already been happy with using simple .qif files.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have never paid bills through Quicken, simply because I never trusted the software&#039;s clunky online setup procedures to perform transactions. I pay bills online through my bank&#039;s site, which is convenient and functional. I&#039;ll need any replacement for Quicken to import/track/reconcile bank, credit, loans, investments, and reports to the same level of detail that Q2007 does. Ideally, its interface will not impose someone&#039;s new, simplistic metaphor on a scheme I&#039;ve come to think of as a logical, if cluttered, electronic extension of paper bookkeeping.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, thanks for your assessment of Intuit&#8217;s neglect. I&#8217;ve been using Quicken for Mac since 1998, currently on version 2007. The Essentials description looks very much as though Intuit is targeting a lower level of user who has fewer needs for money management and fewer intellectual faculties for understanding them.</p>
<p>I believe you left out one truly annoying factor about Quicken I&#8217;ve discovered through several upgrades. Two or three releases after a particular version, Intuit effectively disables bank and credit transaction downloads in that version. I had to buy Q2007 after Q2004 informed me of this, for example. Further, I found no added convenience from &quot;Web Connect&#8217;s&quot; clumsy modal window that I hadn&#8217;t already been happy with using simple .qif files.</p>
<p>I have never paid bills through Quicken, simply because I never trusted the software&#8217;s clunky online setup procedures to perform transactions. I pay bills online through my bank&#8217;s site, which is convenient and functional. I&#8217;ll need any replacement for Quicken to import/track/reconcile bank, credit, loans, investments, and reports to the same level of detail that Q2007 does. Ideally, its interface will not impose someone&#8217;s new, simplistic metaphor on a scheme I&#8217;ve come to think of as a logical, if cluttered, electronic extension of paper bookkeeping.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been following the Intuit Quicken for MAC saga for a few years ever since I switched to the MAC.  I still have an old PC that I keep just to run Quicken for Windows, now at V 2010.  I have used it forever and they have almost always pleased me with it.  However, as a Company, they are miserable at reading the public.  There was the try to copy protect Quicken with some really dumb method.  Then there was the TurboTax fiasco where they tried to charge for a federal eFile and would not let you print a return to file by mail.   Now, the hilarious adventure of Quicken Financial Life or whatever it is now called.   I cannot believe it took 3 years to come up with the yet to be released MAC update.  It has been stripped of many of the features available on the old MAC version and totally pales in comparison to its Windows cousin.   There are several MAC financial programs out there that are pretty decent, but not as good as Quicken for Windows.  They are better than Quicken for the MAC or whatever..... Give me a break Intiut!  Where is the beef?  Where is the program?  Why no free trial like almost every other piece of MAC software.  Sure you have a 60 day return policy.... Hoping many people will not partake of your generosity....  I say stuff it Intuit, I am not going to pay $59 for a half baked product.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following the Intuit Quicken for MAC saga for a few years ever since I switched to the MAC.  I still have an old PC that I keep just to run Quicken for Windows, now at V 2010.  I have used it forever and they have almost always pleased me with it.  However, as a Company, they are miserable at reading the public.  There was the try to copy protect Quicken with some really dumb method.  Then there was the TurboTax fiasco where they tried to charge for a federal eFile and would not let you print a return to file by mail.   Now, the hilarious adventure of Quicken Financial Life or whatever it is now called.   I cannot believe it took 3 years to come up with the yet to be released MAC update.  It has been stripped of many of the features available on the old MAC version and totally pales in comparison to its Windows cousin.   There are several MAC financial programs out there that are pretty decent, but not as good as Quicken for Windows.  They are better than Quicken for the MAC or whatever&#8230;.. Give me a break Intiut!  Where is the beef?  Where is the program?  Why no free trial like almost every other piece of MAC software.  Sure you have a 60 day return policy&#8230;. Hoping many people will not partake of your generosity&#8230;.  I say stuff it Intuit, I am not going to pay $59 for a half baked product.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too have used Quicken for the Mac for a long time (since before 1992) and am currently using Quicken 2007. It does what I need it to do and I&#039;ve  used it so long I&#039;m used to all it&#039;s quirks and know how to work around it&#039;s limitations. I don&#039;t require that Intuit constantly update and improve their product and the fact that they don&#039;t doesn&#039;t make me feel ignored or insulted. I don&#039;t really care if Quicken for the Mac doesn&#039;t have the same feature set as Quicken for Windows. If I wanted to run Quicken for Windows under virtualization I could - I do run other Windows only programs with no problems - but I don&#039;t feel the need. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do I care that Quicken 2007 is a PowerPC application that runs under Rosetta? No, it is transparent to me. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would it be nice to have a new full featured version of Quicken for the Mac? Yes, I like shinny, new software but I don&#039;t need it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Will I buy Quicken Essentials? No, I monitor my investments in Quicken.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My only real concern is that sometime in the future Quicken will cease to run on my Mac and I&#039;ll be forced to look for an alternative. None of the other programs I&#039;ve looked at for the Mac do what I need them to do so I don&#039;t have a current solution except virtualization. I&#039;m not real optimistic on this last poit.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have used Quicken for the Mac for a long time (since before 1992) and am currently using Quicken 2007. It does what I need it to do and I&#8217;ve  used it so long I&#8217;m used to all it&#8217;s quirks and know how to work around it&#8217;s limitations. I don&#8217;t require that Intuit constantly update and improve their product and the fact that they don&#8217;t doesn&#8217;t make me feel ignored or insulted. I don&#8217;t really care if Quicken for the Mac doesn&#8217;t have the same feature set as Quicken for Windows. If I wanted to run Quicken for Windows under virtualization I could &#8211; I do run other Windows only programs with no problems &#8211; but I don&#8217;t feel the need. </p>
<p>Do I care that Quicken 2007 is a PowerPC application that runs under Rosetta? No, it is transparent to me. </p>
<p>Would it be nice to have a new full featured version of Quicken for the Mac? Yes, I like shinny, new software but I don&#8217;t need it. </p>
<p>Will I buy Quicken Essentials? No, I monitor my investments in Quicken.</p>
<p>My only real concern is that sometime in the future Quicken will cease to run on my Mac and I&#8217;ll be forced to look for an alternative. None of the other programs I&#8217;ve looked at for the Mac do what I need them to do so I don&#8217;t have a current solution except virtualization. I&#8217;m not real optimistic on this last poit.</p>
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