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Quicken Essentials for Mac – The Bare Minimum

2010 February 25 · 13 comments · tagged with , , , ,

As I mentioned in my last article, iBank – Your Quicken Alternative, I’ve entered my last transaction into Quicken 2007 for Mac. I haven’t deleted it off of my system yet, but I will shortly. This is my review of Quicken Essentials for Mac (QEM as as my fellow bloggers seem to have dubbed it, I don’t think that rolls of the tongue, so I’ll just use Quicken Essentials). This article will be the culmination of my adventure into Macintosh personal finance software. I didn’t set out to be a spokesperson for the legacy Quicken for Mac users, but it seems to have worked out that way, at least a little, and I’m awed at the passion people have for this space and the wonderful comments everyone has left on my blog. Thank you.

When I setup this site, it was to communicate a security flaw I discovered in the Pogoplug home NAS device. I was upset, disgruntled, and needed an outlet. As soon as I published that article, I happened to get my Quicken Essentials pre-order email from Inuit. I immediately became livid at what I perceived to be a complete and total betrayal of the loyalty, patience, and trust I had provided to Intuit. Not only was the new product missing key features, that were present in my 4 year-old version of Quicken, but there was no upgrade pricing, and only a moderate discount for pre-ordering ($10). That prompted me to write my second ever blog post, Quicken Essentials 2010 for Mac. Why Bother? The rest was history and led me to talking with multiple people at Intuit, including a discussion with Aaron Patzer, VP/GM of Personal Finance at Intuit, and having discussions with folks at IGG Software, the developers of iBank.

I hope that after you’ve read this review, you can truly make an informed decision on your next Personal Finance software purchase for the Macintosh. It’s not an easy place to be right now if you rely on this type of software. No matter what you choose, you’re going to be faced with data conversions, data irregularities, new interfaces, different problems from the ones you’ve already discovered work-arounds for, and learning curves. Hopefully I’ve helped you along that path.

Installation

Once you’ve acquired your Quicken Essentials disk image (or CD-ROM) and opened it, you’ll find three items of importance: Quicken Essentials, the Getting Started guide, and the Converting? folder. If you are new to Personal Finance software you can just drag the Quicken Essentials program icon into the provided Applications folder link (hint, hint, iBank) and it will copy itself into the Applications folder on your hard drive. The Getting Started guide, a PDF, is well worth the time it takes to read through, it is very well written, thorough, and gives you a great starting point for Quicken Essentials. I highly recommend both new and old Quicken users read it.

Yay! Intel native! Boo, not 64-bit. I know, I’m never happy. Bye bye Rosetta.

Initial Configuration

The Demo

Alas Intuit does not provide demos of its products. It would be great if existing Quicken for Mac users could pull this version down and try it out. I know the Beta tests were, for the most part, open and lots of people got to use it, but this is the finished, polished, product. A timed demo or even transactional limit demo (like iBank) would probably waylay the concerns of many existing Quicken customers as they moved to this product. It would have also given folks a chance to test out the data conversion and see what, if any, issues they’d have when moving, before they purchased. Unfortunately, most “mainstream” software does not provide a demo period, so I’m not going to fault them for it.

Quicken File Exchange Utility

Yea, you actually have to do some work BEFORE you can import your data into Quicken Essentials. You’ll have to convert your existing data file into something more modern that Quicken Essentials can read. You didn’t expect Intuit to natively support a four year-old application data format did you? What I don’t understand though is why not do this from within Quicken Essentials? I really don’t get the thought process behind this. As a programmer, I can certainly respect that this is a one-time action you’re going to perform on your data, so why bloat the application with all the code necessary to perform those conversions? Well, because it’s not necessarily a one-time thing, that’s why. The issue here is that if you misplace, damage, or lose your original installation media, then you’ve lost the Utility and cannot convert older Quicken files to the new format anymore and hence cannot import them into Quicken Essentials. This could have been handled better. Worst case, keep this application separate, but bundle it inside the main application and have it launched from within Quicken Essentials itself. This is clunky. I don’t like it.

Regardless of its clunkiness, you should back up your Quicken Data file. I’m going to say it again, BACK UP YOUR ORIGINAL QUICKEN DATA FILE. The easiest way is to highlight it, press CMD-D to make a copy, and then perform all of the conversion operations on the copy. After you’ve got a backup, run the Quicken File Exchange Utility that is found in the Converting? folder on your installation media.

Yep Intuit told you to make a copy too, I was just prepping you. Tap the Continue button and the utility will ask you to find your Quicken Data file. Go ahead and Open the COPY that you created above. This process is quick, took about 2 minutes on my 13MB Quicken Data file. When it’s complete, you can delete the copy you made of your original data file. You’ll now have a new file in the same directory as your Quicken Data file, but this one will have “export.qdfx” appended to its name. This is your new-fangled Quicken Essentials format data file, which you can now import into Quicken.

Using Quicken Essentials

Initial Launch

You can finally fire up the Quicken Essentials application. You’ve converted your data to a more modern format and now you won’t have to bounce in and out of Quicken to get your data imported.

Main Screen

I’ve got to hand it to Intuit here, its pretty. This is nothing like Quicken Financial Life’s Beta Screens. That’s a clean initial screen, looks very Mac-like, and the colors there draw you in and make you want to jump in with both feet and start using it (I want a chart like that!). You have Overviews, Transactions, Scheduled Transactions, Downloads, Summaries, and Spending Cloud reports. What else could you possibly want? Oh yea, your Accounts. So, pull yourself away from clicking all the buttons, reports, and immediately exploring the new application. Let’s get your Accounts loaded up.

Migrating Data

This is where the rubber meets the road. We’ve been promised by Intuit, and Aaron Patzer, that this is one of the areas that Quicken Essentials will shine. This is where you experience “The Mother of All Converters”. This bad boy is supposed to take any legacy Quicken data file, and other application data files, and perform magic on it, importing all of your supported (yes, I said supported, not all) data into your new Quicken Essentials application. So let’s get started.

At this point, it’s important to note what’s not going to import, you’re not going to be pleased, from the Converting Your Data file included in the Converting? folder, these items will not be imported:

  • Transactions in your Investment accounts
  • Custom Reports
  • Passwords to any online accounts you’ve setup
  • Business data, rental property data, budget data, spending plan data, debt reduction data, emergency tax records data, tax planner data, home inventory manager data (These aren’t Essential)

If you haven’t already stopped reading at this point, then it’s time to move forward and perform the import. Head to the File menu and select the Import menu item. Again, seriously Intuit, this process couldn’t have included converting the Mac file to the proper format first? I mean there is a Convert menu with a Quicken Mac File… submenu, but it apparently doesn’t do anything, as the instructions ignore it, and if you try to use it, all your Quicken Data files on the disk (both old and new) will be grayed out, not sure why this menu is there. Okay, go find your modern Quicken Data file that you created above, and Open it. Now go to bed. Or go to a movie. Have a date night. I’m serious. This process takes eons. I thought the iBank import process took a long time, it’s NOTHING compared to the time Quicken Essentials takes to import your data. The battery on my MacBook Pro died, this is the one with the 8-hour battery (okay I’m joking here). My data file took 28 minutes to completely import. That’s three times the length it took iBank to import the same file. However, the best thing about the conversion process, if you’re patient enough to watch it, is that there is extremely good feedback on what it’s doing, what account is being imported, and you’ll immediately start seeing the on-screen charts updating as transactions are brought “live” into the application. You’ll even see what appears to be EVERY transaction flying into the new Quicken. It was entertaining. Something else that Intuit does for the import process, that I wish iBank had done, was provide an extremely detailed log of the entire process. You can see everything it did, and that file will be placed on your Desktop. If you have questions about the import process for your accounts, check this file first.

After the import process completes you can toss the previously converted data file (the one you just imported). When my import process completed, Quicken Essentials had imported all 75 of my accounts, including the two that iBank skipped because there weren’t any transactions in them. When I was done verifying my accounts and account balances between Quicken 2007 for Mac and Quicken Essentials, there was only one account that did not have a correct balance. A checking account of mine, which after investigating had 3 different problems:

  • An ATM Withdrawal, which I had built as a Split since it had a Bank Charge, was missing the Bank Charge
  • A payment of $80 was duplicated, but Quicken had put a note both of them: Imported Orphan Transaction – So be sure to check for that phrase in the Memos when importing (see below)
  • One entire transaction had been skipped

After correcting these items, the account balanced again. This was a much better result than iBank had delivered on my data. But that better performance comes at a price.

My eight Brokerage accounts came across without any transactions and as having a zero balance. If I want to see how much money I had/have in these accounts, I have to set them up for online access. Just one problem with that, 5 of those accounts were closed, so all that history is gone. Was I using that history? Not really, but it still stings to lose it all. Additionally, something I wasn’t expecting happened. Both of my active 401-K accounts were wiped of history as none of the transactions came across. I use these accounts to track my contributions to my 401-K (and my wife’s), using a Split transaction on our Paychecks that puts money into those accounts. This probably isn’t the traditional way people used the 401-K account type in Quicken for Mac, but it’s how I was using it, and it worked. What is really throwing me is that I can use the 401-K account I have setup as the destination of a transfer, but it doesn’t show up in the account, it seems to just disappear. Very disconcerting.

Other items of note on the import process:

  • Your custom categories will be created, provided they don’t match one that exists (but then why create it?)
  • Your scheduled transactions will be pulled over, good time to review them to make sure they’re all still valid
  • Any Classes you have will be converted to Tags, and the transactions will be assigned those Tags following the Import – this is good news because the old way of using “/” to denote a Class was awkward and caused import issues elsewhere (like on iBank)
  • Any errors in the import process *should* be logged in the Import Log that’s created on your Desktop, after checking my log I found the following note (see above): “1 transfer transactions in the account ‘AT&T Universal’ have been marked with the note ‘[IMPORTED ORPHAN TRANSFER]‘ because they could not be matched. These transactions may appear twice in the imported data.” I also found another note: “Data Validation Error – The amount specified for the transaction is not equal to the sum of the amounts specified for the detail lines.” I think that was my missing transaction, because when I reviewed it, there was an amount that hadn’t been assigned any kind of Category and required me to enter it manually.

Conclusion: Quicken Essential’s “Mother of All Converters” delivered. Everything came across, that was supposed to, and the errors for those accounts were minimal. All of the errors I experienced were logged in the Import Log, which is the good news. The bad news was that Intuit should have provided a Transaction Date for the items logged in the Import Log, that would have made it MUCH easier to locate and correct following the import.

Quicken Essentials Features

The Overview

This is a Macintosh application.

There’s no doubt about it. It just feels like the application was written by Apple and that says a lot for the effort that Intuit put into this application. Everything lines up on the left, the different view panes are adjustable, and you perform various filtering capabilities at the top of each window. Additionally, the interface is responsive. I didn’t see a beach ball the entire time I was moving around the application.

The Register

In a departure for Quicken, the familiar two-row transaction is gone.

All transactions are presented in a single line (more below). As an improvement over previous Quicken for Mac products, the columns are completely adjustable. Don’t like the Notes column at the end, just drag it to where you want it to be (I moved mine next to Category). However, these settings appear to be per account, so you have to keep doing it on every Register. There are many, many, columns you can add to the Register view, just right-click on a blank column and select the data elements you’d like to see (or you’d like to remove) from view.

One gripe I have with entering transactions in the register is choosing Categories. I got very used to using Quicken for Mac with a keyboard and typing out the first few characters of my Category, Quicken 2007 for Mac would autofill these for me while I was typing (so does Quicken Essentials), but where this application is different is sub-categories. Quicken 2007 for Mac would let me hit a colon (:) at anytime during entry, and it would autofill what it recognized and then immediately start autofilling the sub-category. Quicken Essentials doesn’t understand this mode of operation, puts the colon into the Category field, which immediately unmatches your category. It’s annoying. However, there is a new Category picker (which for some reason is called a Register List Picker) that is on by default (and can be disabled from the View menu).

Overall, Quicken Essentials does a nice job with the Register. It has a similar feel to the Quicken 2007 for Mac Register, with some very welcome improvements. The small learning curves getting used to the new features are just those, learning curves, after a few transactions have been entered, you’ll like the overall interface.

Adding Transactions

This is where you’re going to spend the bulk of your time with Quicken, adding Transactions. You’ll either be typing them in manually or using the Online features to have Quicken download and insert them. The manual entering of transactions has been changed from what you’re probably used to, which has both good and bad points. Like in iBank, our familiar empty transaction is gone, you now have to click the New Transaction button, or use CMD-N. This isn’t as convenient as just having a blank transaction you fill out, but it works fine. I also noted that the entering of transactions isn’t as crisp as it was in Quicken 2007 for Mac, there are delays, especially noticable with the date picker, which I never use, but which pops up all the time, but these delays are very tolerable and shouldn’t detract from using Quicken.

I spent about an hour and entered around 50+ transactions into various accounts. It worked well, other than the slight delay I experienced while moving between fields. I entered a transaction into the wrong account, and went to find my Move Transaction menu item, it was gone, which sucked. However, I then had a stroke of insight and tried the “Mac Thing” to do, just pick it up and drag it to the right account. Guess what? It worked exactly like it should! Now that’s a Mac app!

Transaction entry works at least as well as it did under Quicken 2007 for Mac, the biggest issue I have is that Intuit changed how Transfers work (actually creating a Transfer action) which means you don’t use Categories that represent your accounts any longer, that means on those transfers, the Category is blank, and I found I constantly added Categories to the Transfer, which is inaccurate now. It’ll take some time to retrain myself.

Online Access

This is the other way you’ll be entering transactions into Quicken Essentials. Since my brokerage accounts all had zero balances, I decided to try setting them up first, to get a feel for this aspect of Quicken. I successfully setup E*Trade and Merrill Lynch accounts without incident. However, ING Direct cannot be setup, you must download the transactions and import them manually into Quicken, iBank had the same issue. I’ve read this as a complaint of iBank, but it appears the issue is ING Direct, as both applications have the same issue. Shame on ING.

I then setup several of my other accounts for online access, this process included setting up accounts that I’ve never had online access to before, like PayPal. The process worked well, but wasn’t perfect. For example, when setting up my USAA Checking account, it wouldn’t take my information, claiming it wasn’t correct. I verified it by accessing the USAA website directly, Intuit kindly provided me a direct link to the website and asked me to verify my information. I’m convinced that the issue was the symbol characters I use in my passwords (I make use of them frequently). If that’s the case, it’s a bug, as Quicken needs to support whatever characters my online access supports.

I’m a HUGE fan of 1Password on the Macintosh (if you haven’t tried it out, you need to, it will probably be my next software review) and all of my online accounts use extremely strong passwords, that are all different from each other, hence the heavy reliance on symbol characters.

After changing my password at USAA to something less secure than it was, I was able to access my account, proving this is a bug in Quicken Essentials, which needs to be addressed by Intuit. Additionally, I found some of the accounts that are listed in the Financial Institutions list, really aren’t available. Just like in iBank, you’ll have to manually download a file from the Financial Institution and then import it into Quicken. ING Direct, as mentioned above, was one of these.

I’m pleased with the Online Access. Based on experience with Mint.com I was expecting Quicken Essentials to shine in this area, and it does, supporting a truly huge number of Financial Institutions. You can one-click update all of your online accounts, or do them individually. The only shortcoming (besides the bug I found) is that you cannot setup a schedule. It would be really great if you could set it up to automatically update every time you opened Quicken, every time you closed it, or in some type of a background process that could be scheduled outside of the application. However, one-click updating is probably sufficient for most people, including me.

Categories

This is another strong area for Quicken Essentials and one of the primary reasons we take the time to use personal finance software. Categories are essentially unchanged in this version, with the Register List Picker being the only new item. All of your custom categories will be imported into Quicken during your data import process. This is a great time to clean up those categories, I’ve had several misspelled or duplicate categories for a long time. I spent a bit of time going through them all and renaming the bad ones to existing ones. Quicken Essentials will prompt you that a category already exists by that name and ask if you’d like to merge them. That rocked.

Tags

Intuit has taken the previous concept of Classes and Web 2.0ized them into Tags. Why do you care? Because Tags rule! Seriously though, through the use of Tags you can essentially create a bunch of “sub-categories” for your transactions. When you eat out, you probably always categorize them as Dining. But what if that dinner was with a client? Isn’t that tax deductible? But all your Dining isn’t, right? So you use a Tag: Business Expense. Now you can run a report on all transactions marked “Business Expense”. These can include transactions from a bunch of Categories. I never used Classes under Quicken 2007 for Mac, I never really understood what they were for! They were always Tags. I’m loving them! Pulling them out of the Category means your data will export and import more efficiently to other applications.

Synch Devices

This is the single biggest weakness for Quicken Essentials, for me. I so miss using PocketQuicken. I was thrilled with iBank’s iPhone (iTunes Link) application and really wish Intuit would also put out a Quicken iPhone application. Yea, they have a free Quicken Online iPhone application (iTunes Link), but it won’t link to your data in Quicken Essentials at this time. Perhaps, if Aaron Patzer gets his wish, you’ll be able to link your Quicken Essentials data to a Quicken Online account and then use this application to make changes and updates to it. Maybe not. I hope they do.

Reporting

Why do you spend all your time Categorizing transactions? Adding Tags to transactions? So you can write and view reports of course! This, also, is an area where Quicken Essentials should shine.

Quicken comes with 4 standard reports:

  • Spending Cloud: This one is cool, as it shows you your categories, based on spend levels, in different sizes
  • Category Summary: Standard Category Summary report
  • This Month: Income and Expense report, by Account, Month to Date
  • Last Month: Income and Expense report, by Account, Last Month

It took me a bit to figure out how to create custom reports. The Help System doesn’t even have a match on the word “Report”. If you look carefully in the upper-right corner of either the Spending Cloud or the Category Summary report, you’ll find a small Settings button.

That button will bring up the above screen (if you clicked the Category Summary report). Here you can customize the settings of that report, then save your customizations as a new report that will show up under the Reports section in the sidebar. I wish I could tell you I was impressed, I wasn’t. This area of Quicken Essentials needs a LOT of work. You really cannot setup anywhere near the reporting environment that Quicken 2007 for Mac provided. The reports here are pretty, but they’re redundant, they’re all Category summaries, just different ways of looking at them. Something I used *constantly* under Quicken 2007 for Mac was searching ALL of my Registers for a specific transaction, usually based on Memo fields. I’m still looking for how to do this in Quicken Essentials, I can’t find it. This is probably the single largest failing of Quicken Essentials in my opinion.

Didn’t Try Features

Here are what I believe to be noteworthy features in Quicken Essentials, that I didn’t fully explore:

  • Backup to MobileMe (or Disk) – This is the same feature that Quicken 2007 for Mac has, unfortunately, I wasn’t able to get it to work, as it constantly timed out copying the data file to MobileMe. Also, there’s no where to set it up to backup on a schedule like you can do with Quicken 2007 for Mac
  • Mass Update – Quicken Essentials lets you select multiple transactions, then make changes to all of them, at once
  • Budgets – A rudimentary budgeting capability is available in Quicken Essentials, it will automatically analyze the last 3 months of transactions and give you a budget on your main Categories, you can tweak it a bit, but it’s not extensive

Additional Missing Features

It’s like a broken record, but I found additional items that no longer exist, not including the ones listed at the top of the article (you can basically tell that if it wouldn’t import something, it’s not going to work anymore):

  • No password protection of data file
  • No entering of transactions into iCal
  • No Emergency Records Organizer
  • No Planning Calculators…well, no calculators at all

The Good

Quicken Essentials has a lot going for it.

Here are all of my pros for Quicken:

  • Outstanding data import with the “Mother of all Converters”
  • Stellar user interface
  • Great performance
  • Huge array of supported online institutions
  • Tags

The Bad

Quicken Essentials has taken a beating from all over the blog-o-sphere and the Internet, especially from the Quicken User Community. That beating is deserved, but I’m not going to cover those specific issues. Putting everything that Quicken Essentials doesn’t support aside, here are the issues I have with the application as presented:

  • Terrible reporting support
  • No mobile application
  • Bug with online account password (though this should get fixed)

The Recommendation

As I was writing my two review articles, I stopped entering any transactions into Quicken 2007 for Mac. I was serious when I wrote that I had entered my last transaction into that application. Because of my hiatus, I had accumulated a backlog of transactions to enter into…something. As my wife will attest, going several weeks without entering transactions…somewhere, is a long time for me. I even worked out a system where she can take a photo of a receipt, drop it in our Dropbox, and then it will automatically import into Yojimbo so I know to enter it into…something. I resisted entering all of those transactions into iBank, because if I ended up going with Quicken Essentials, I didn’t want to duplicate that work. I entered enough into iBank during the review to get a feel for how well it worked, but I never entered the full backlog. Then while working with Quicken Essentials I found myself entering not only the transactions I needed to enter for the review, but my entire backlog.

Here’s the thing about Quicken Essentials: it just feels familiar. I’ve been entering transactions into Quicken for over a decade. It just feels right to be putting them into Quicken. I really enjoyed using iBank, but it never gave me that same sense of familiarity. Also, it was slow. But, ultimately, it was this issue of doing what I’ve always done: enter the transactions into Quicken.

Here’s my honest recommendation concerning iBank: if you are a current user of Quicken 2007 for Mac AND any of the following features are CRITICAL to your use of a personal finance application:

  • Tracking of Buys and Sells in your Investment Accounts
  • Exporting your data into TurboTax
  • An iPhone application to synch data to and enter transactions from
  • Check printing

Then you need to purchase iBank.

At this point, you need to be very honest with yourself. You need to take a hard look at how you’re using Quicken 2007 for Mac. What are the things you’re doing every day? What can you live without? I’m upset that Intuit released a product for Macintosh users that didn’t provide, at a minimum, the same features that were present in the previous version. However, it’s very, very usable. In fact, it’s good. The software is far from perfect, but I believe throughout this article I’ve pointed out the failings I’ve found. Some will be fixed in future updates, I’m sure. Others will take new versions to correct, and Aaron Patzer mentioned “additional SKUs”. Yes, that probably means “Deluxe” and “Premier” and “Home and Business” versions for additional fees, but that’s how software publishing works.

If any of the above features are NOT CRITICAL to your use of a Personal Finance application:

Then you need to purchase Quicken Essentials.

I wish I could have given a straightforward recommendation, but it’s a complex set of criteria when recommending a software application with such a wide variety of features and needs. I’m personally going to be using Quicken Essentials; though if iBank performed better I may have gone the other way, for me, the speed issues made it a clear decision.

I want to take a moment to congratulate Intuit. As I did my review of Quicken Essentials, everywhere I looked, Intuit was telling us what Quicken Essentials didn’t include. It’s in all of the documentation, it’s on their website, it’s in the instructions for importing data, Aaron Patzer mentioned them to me on the phone, and their PR people even took time to point them out to me, rather than pointing out features. That’s an amazingly transparent way to handle this type of transition and I wanted to personally applaud Intuit for taking this stance with Quicken Essentials. They could have opted to hide or downplay these issues, but they chose to embrace them. They deserve credit for that, if nothing else.

Note: During the writing of this review, Intuit released a Quicken Essentials for Mac upgrade. The current version is now 1.1f4438, the patch contained multiple bug fixes, though my bug was not fixed.

Other Coverage

Walt Mossberg did a review of Quicken Essentials 2010 for Mac on the All Things Digital: It was pretty high level. He didn’t seem fond of it.

TUAW has also done a review of Quicken Essentials for Mac and they also interviewed Aaron Patzer at Intuit. Both are worthy of a read.

Update #1: 20100302

Someone posted in the comments, and I have confirmed, a serious issue. I’m pretty big on security and I took the time to point out that Quicken Essentials would not allow you to password protect your data file. Well, there’s another, pretty big, security issue with the application that I felt I should point out to my readers. Quicken Essentials DOES NOT STORE PASSWORDS LOCALLY. This is just about a deal-breaker for me. In order to use any of the online account features, you must enter your username and password. No problem if you’re using Quicken 2007 for Mac, which had something called a “PIN Vault”. Under that application, your usernames and passwords were stored locally and protected by a PIN that would allow you to just remember it. However, Quicken Essentials takes it a step further, a step too far in my opinion. Your usernames and passwords are stored on the Quicken Online servers and accessed whenever you update your online accounts. Worse, you don’t have an alternative to storing them on their servers. Quicken Essentials does not provide the ability to force the application to prompt you for them, it’s all or nothing.

I don’t trust storing my passwords in my browsers, I use 1Password for that, I certainly don’t trust storing every online financial system username and password I have online with a company FOR WHOM I HAVE NO TERMS OF SERVICE OR PRIVACY POLICY. That’s right Quicken Online can do whatever they want with your private security information, they’ve made no agreements with you, whatsoever. They tell you, “Your sign-in information is encrypted and stored on our firewall-protected servers”. Really? Seriously? Encrypted? And who provided the encryption key? I wasn’t prompted for one. So that means Intuit has the encryption key, they can freely decrypt them and read them. It would have been child’s play to prompt for an encryption key, then prompt for it every time the transactions are updated, giving Intuit access to decrypt passwords and use them to update the accounts. It’s very sad they chose not to do this, because it makes the entire process suspect.

My suggestion: If you trust storing your website usernames and passwords in your browsers, then this method Intuit has chosen to use is probably just as secure. If however, like me, you do not, then you should write-off all of Quicken Essential’s online access capabilities, as they are completely and totally worthless.

{ 13 comments }

Vivian March 1, 2010 at 1:17 pm

Rob, this is a great review! Thanks so much for your hard work (and for putting off your several weeks’ of transactions! I know what that’s like…) I’ve been waiting for your review and your recommendation section really gets to the heart of it. I totally agree with your paragraph about how Quicken just feels familiar. Even though in the last week I actually purchased iBank, I’m still thinking of going back to Quicken – because of that familiarity. And yes, the charts certainly do look pretty! Maybe the "essentials" is all I need. But Intuit, you HAVE to come up with an iPhone app!!!

Well, after using iBank for a week, what I also *really* need is robust multiple currency functionality. My husband and I have accounts in six currencies and the budgeting and charts don’t automatically convert them. For example, it looks like our monthly food budget is $63,000 because our expenses in yen are added in without conversion. You didn’t happen to look into the currency capability did you? =)

Thanks again for a great review!

Stefan March 1, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I’ve been following these discussions since some time (coming from the Mac Achaia), and there I learned sometime ago about another application, it’s called iCompta, (http://www.lyricapps.com/iCompta/).

What do you think of this one?
I’m more then eager to read what you think about this one, having done thorough review on QE and iBank.

Ray March 1, 2010 at 2:02 pm

Rob, interesting review.

I purchased it knowing that there were features missing from QEM, but I did not need them. I was satisfied with what QEM supposedly had. Unlike you, my conversion from Quicken Windows 2010 was so smooth it scared me. This is a direct export to QFX and a simple import, unlike older versions of QW. All my accounts were populated correctly with the exception of the investment accounts. Even my savings goal accounts came across with the correct amounts in them.

Then it was downhill. I have several brokerage accounts with Cambridge Investment Research and one with Scottrade. I did a Direct Connect with Scottrade and it brought over the current holdings and value of the account. I then tried CIR, which was on their list and supported Direct Connect in QW. I received an error indicating incorrect id or password. I contacted CIR and they told me the link in the Financial List was to one of the many account types CIR services. They said QEM will have to add a link to the correct URL to the server with my account information. Contacted Intuit by email. Told me to do a Web Connect. I told them CIR does not have Web Connect only Direct Connect. No reply. I then went to online chat and spent an hour with 2 reps with no resolution but a suggestion to request a call back from telephone support. This I did and when they called, they immediately disconnected. Did they try to call back? Nope! Back to email support. They then gave me a link to the financial institution support site and told me to provide it to my financial firm. As I mentioned, the already support Direct Connect in the Windows version. That means someone from CIR contacted Intuit in the past and went through all the procedures necessary to setup Direct Connect. Anyway, I sent this on to CIR and will have to see if anything is done.

I continued to try QEM and found out that there are a lot of small "things" missing that I used in the Windows version.

No Save or Save As option, No Year End Maintenance function, no way to manually edit the Investment accounts (this I understand as supposedly there is no need assuming you can get Direct Connect or Web Connect to work). No way to set up an account to follow savings bonds. No way to set up loans and have QEM automatically allocate splits between Interest, Principle, and Taxes. The list goes on and you only have to go to the Intuit MAC Forum to see the numerous complaints. I have not tried yet, but I do not know if there is a way to set up a paycheck. According to posts on the QEM board, there is no wizard as there is in the Windows version but you can set up as a scheduled transaction. Poor!

Any way, I tried iBank and I have the same problem with CIR there. They only support Direct Connect from the same (1) Pershing account on the Financial Institution list. Another problem is that QW2010 creates a somewhat different QIF export file and the import into iBank is not smooth. I have also tried several Investment Tracking applications on the MAC and they all seem to have problems with importing the QIFfile from QW2010. Who knows! For now QEM goes back and I am back to using QW2010 in a VM. Really Sad!

ABZ March 1, 2010 at 2:11 pm

Quicken Essentials is probably the worst product I’ve ever purchased. I tried it for a day and requested a refund from Intuit.

It did not import my data correctly (not even close). It marked hundreds of transactions as "scheduled" — it even did so on closed accounts by repeating scheduled transactions years after the account closed.

I can’t imagine what Intuit was thinking when they omitted transaction tracking for mutual funds. This is a definite show-stopper.

Finally, the program asked me to store my password on their "firewall-protected servers" in order to download transactions from my credit card. It said, "Protecting your financial information is absolutely critical to us. To access your bank or credit card accounts, we ask you to enter the same information that you use to sign into your accounts at your financial institutions. Your sign-in information is encrypted and stored on our firewall-protected servers." There was no option to say, "no thanks." Are they nuts? If wanted them to have my passwords then I would just use Mint.

There’s got to be a better option than this. Despite opinions otherwise, I don’t believe that iBank is reasonable alternative.

Trevor March 1, 2010 at 9:32 pm

Rob, many thanks for the review, which I’m still digesting. Quick question: no category detail reports of any kind? Is there any substitute, in terms of ability to view particular category detail lists across the various accounts at once, such as "smart lists," or something?

Trevor March 1, 2010 at 10:49 pm

Rob, I’m sorry, never mind, I now see the ability to select specific categories in that screenshot you provided.

gogo March 2, 2010 at 5:38 pm

> Something I used *constantly* under Quicken 2007 for Mac was searching ALL of my
> Registers for a specific transaction, usually based on Memo fields

Rob, I you can use the search in the "transactions" register (which is basically a multi-account register). Also note the little total line in the top-right corner of the register–which totals the results of the search and/or the transactions you select. You can also print your filtered register, essentially making a mini-report.

Rob Pickering March 3, 2010 at 2:42 am

@gogo: Yes, that allows you to do a search on all transactions, all fields. Unfortunately, with over 20,000 transactions in my Registers, it takes an abysmally long time to perform a search on all transactions. Couple that with the fact that the results will be for ANY match, there’s no way to limit the matches to the Notes field that I can find. Quicken 2007 for Mac would let you do that with a custom report.

Kendra March 3, 2010 at 5:04 am

I have encountered a major problem with Essentials. I left the program running for 24 hours; I’m not sure if this has anything to do with the problem. However, 24 hours after looking at my account balances, I clicked "update". I received the "connecting to your financial institution" screen, and then it claimed 0 transactions. This was not right. I logged into a checking account and a credit card and verified both accounts had new transactions since the previous evening. I know at least one of these accounts had been updating on previous days and nothing had been changed with those account settings. Restarting the program, even restarting my computer, did not fix this. Instead I had to click "update passwords" and type in the *same* ID and passwords, at which point new transactions were downloaded. I am not happy about this.

Dave T. March 10, 2010 at 4:52 pm

Rob, I’m totally impressed by your dedication to thorough reviews–THANKS! I’ve been waiting for Essentials to come out and be reviewed before I bought it. I’ve used Quicken for PC for years before I got "converted" to Mac. I tried Quicken Mac 2005 but never used it consistently. In the mean time, I hedged my bets by using Quicken Deluxe 2010 Windows under Parallels XP (and recently on Win7-64 on a PC laptop). I like the latest PC version a lot and have considered just using it permanently (although I’ve not decided if I will bother to start tracking investment accounts). HOWEVER, I’m also a security freak and your concerns about password storage on Intuit’s servers is troubling. I’ve read extensively Intuit’s literature on the PC version. I didn’t see anything about password storage, but if I’m interpreting their explanations correctly, they intermediately store ALL BANK data on their servers during updates and relay that data to your computer. So when you do an online update, you aren’t even directly connected to the institution. In effect, Intuit is serving as an intermediary between you and the bank. In some ways this is not surprising since they have to do this for Quicken online web banking, and I speculate the stand-alone Quicken versions may be using an extension of that infrastructure. If true, they are storing ALL your financial data including PWs on their server. I would assume that the PC and Mac versions use the same faculties.

Nothing seems perfect! I’ve even developed my own program using MS Access but it can’t do online updates and it’s a lot of trouble to try to replicate all the features of Quicken like budgeting. I’ve decided to try more earnestly to make Quicken work. I’ve considered using scripts to automate direct connection to each bank and manually download and import QIF or web-connect files to eliminate Intuit participation in the process. I have to do this anyway for some of the institutions that don’t support web-connect as you mentioned. In my case it’s GM Mastercard (they claim they don’t support web-connect because of security reasons). But Automator isn’t sufficient for this task and I’m not familiar enough with Apple Script to determine if it could. Maybe I’m just too paranoid. If you can trust your bank you should be able to trust Intuit–right? However, having all your financial data on Intuit’s servers looks like one giant single-point failure risk.

Rob Pickering March 11, 2010 at 9:24 pm

@Kendra: I’ve left my Quicken Essentials running for several days now, the Update functions still seem to be working, so that appears to be a quirk rather than a repeatable bug.

Rob Pickering March 11, 2010 at 9:29 pm

@Dave T.: I’m okay with proxying information for technical reasons. I’m not okay with permanent storage of data without my express consent, especially when it’s passwords. I actually care less about my financial transaction data being stored (though it depends what it is, but who cares that I spent $5 at Subway?) than I do passwords. Usernames and Passwords give you access to the account. That allows you to make changes, transfer funds, create virtual numbers for use at retailers, and in some cases even close the account.

The fact that Intuit doesn’t give you the option of being prompted each time, nor allows them to be stored locally, is frankly a huge issue. I only store passwords in one place, 1Password. I don’t want to worry about updating them in multiple places and I certainly don’t want them out of my control stored somewhere where *someone* besides me has access to them, and that person is under no legal or contractual obligations to safeguard them. That’s what you have if you use Quicken Essentials online.

allanb May 26, 2010 at 6:33 am

Thanks for the review. From what you say, and from a couple of comments by others, it would seem that QE will not let me do either of the following:

(1) List all amounts paid to (or received from) John Smith, whether by check, credit card, cash, or whatever.

(2) List all transactions in which the "memo" or "note" field contains the word "Ferrari".

Can this be true? If so it’s an unbelievable omission. Enough to stop me buying the product, I think.

By the way, I don’t really have a Ferrari. Just trying to impress you.

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